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 Subject :New on Broadband-Hamnet (Need help).. 2013-08-13- 12:48:37 
KP4RV
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Hi Guys;

Got both routers Linksys Wrt54G converted and running with the new firmware 1.0, asigned callsigns Kp4rv-1 and kp4rv-2 hitted mesh status at the menu, from kp4rv-1 and saw the other node kp4rv-2, How is connect the other node and be able to communicate with it, I do not see like a area to have a contact keyboard to Keyboard, I'm a little lost or confused, somebody let me know how works?


God Bless!

KP4RV - Rafael

Puerto Rico 

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 Subject :Re:New on Broadband-Hamnet (Need help).. 2013-08-23- 14:44:57 
KI6WDY
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I am right with you, being new to all of this. I downloaded a program called putty and installed it on one of the PCs connceted to my mesh and low and behold, I was able to get into the other conputer. That is past the router into the computer linked to the other router. That is as far as I have been able to get, what esle I will be able to do is unknown to me so far.
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 Subject :Re:New on Broadband-Hamnet (Need help).. 2013-08-27- 06:03:24 
KD0KWW
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Greetings! Think of the connection between the two nodes as a road you just built. It's a really nice road but you can't really use it without a vehicle, right? Additional software is required to add functions to your new mesh. Each of these in the below list have instructions, normally found on their respective websites.

Teamspeak 3: voice and text based chatting, requires server and client

IRC: Text based chat, requires server and client

Asterisk: IP Phone server, requires server and an IP phone handset for each node that desires access to the service.

The mesh is a very capable network, though how you use it depends on the services you install.

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 Subject :Re:New on Broadband-Hamnet (Need help).. 2013-10-18- 10:51:48 
AI2Q
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I agree. I've been a professional engineering writer for over three decades, and a good manual is required with clear step-by-step instructions and careful definitions of the acronyms. I am prepared to begin writing this documentation, along with a fellow ham here in Maine, as soon as someone can clearly lead me along the way to show precisely what's needed by me as an HSMM novice. So far, the meagre advice I've received as a result of a note here on the forums is well intentioned, but useless. I was advised to read the docs, but that leads to confusion amidst a morass of acronyms.
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 Subject :Re:New on Broadband-Hamnet (Need help).. 2013-10-19- 14:56:29 
KJ6OGW
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I agree for the need about the need for a novice book. I figured that would come in time. Its nice to see a few hams step up to the plate and tackle the issue. I pick up a little here and there as I come back to the site. In time things will move along better and some good solid documentation, tools and software will come together in one place.
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 Subject :Re:New on Broadband-Hamnet (Need help).. 2013-10-19- 14:56:31 
KJ6OGW
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I agree for the need about the need for a novice book. I figured that would come in time. Its nice to see a few hams step up to the plate and tackle the issue. I pick up a little here and there as I come back to the site. In time things will move along better and some good solid documentation, tools and software will come together in one place.
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 Subject :Re:New on Broadband-Hamnet (Need help).. 2013-10-19- 14:56:34 
KJ6OGW
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I agree for the need about the need for a novice book. I figured that would come in time. Its nice to see a few hams step up to the plate and tackle the issue. I pick up a little here and there as I come back to the site. In time things will move along better and some good solid documentation, tools and software will come together in one place.
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 Subject :Re:New on Broadband-Hamnet (Need help).. 2013-10-19- 14:57:34 
KJ6OGW
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 Subject :Re:New on Broadband-Hamnet (Need help).. 2013-10-19- 15:26:19 
NG5V
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I believe there is a disconnect here. There already is a book. Look elsewhere for "wireless networking for the developing world". If the core development team were to write a "getting started" book on the topic, only a few paragraphs would be different. It was recently expanded and is a free download. More importantly, Broadband-Hamnet IS the product. It is a network. When you bought your most recent wireless/mimo/n-spec networking device, what software was included with it? Any good WiFi router can be configured with only the web page. Any software provided with your purchase was aimed solely at helping you CONFIGURE the device. That device as with Broadband-Hamnet is the network. There is no application software delivered with networking devices because you either have it already, or can obtain if from other sources. If you stop to think about what networks are used for, the best parallel is to describe them as a highway for the data. Mesh networking with our software is just the same. Our firmware delivers a network (data highway) without wires. Uses for your network in the field include data logging during Field Day or Dxpeditions, IP video between sites, administrative keyboard chat to run events or operations, Personnel assignment/deployment/tracking with WebEOC or Tickets, IP phones, local time servers for remote nets w/o Internet links, data shares with large stocks of operator manuals for the different radios and software you use, local web pages on the lead device or Asterisk server where all hams can check in and read the status web page after they join the mesh, and so on. These are but a few of the very useful tasks that you can easily undertake at a remote site IF you have a functional network and data to move across it. With the exception of WebEOC, all of the software and information I list above is free or open source. Finances are not a barrier to entry here, understanding what an network is and what it can be used for are the barrier. How do YOU use your network at home? de NG5V one of the founders of HSMM-MESH/Broadband-Hamnet.
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 Subject :Re:New on Broadband-Hamnet (Need help).. 2013-10-26- 15:33:20 
N7DLV
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I am a newbie hsmmmesh/hamnet user as well and live in the Kent, WA area. My understanding was that the nodes are just "highways" and the software you have on the computers are the tools needed to communicate with each other. If I am mistaken, please explain. I have two reconfigured WRT54Gs and will be looking to see if there are any other hsmm-mesg/hamnet users in the area when I install one.
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 Subject :Re:New on Broadband-Hamnet (Need help).. 2013-10-26- 16:07:33 
KD5MFW
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Please read the forum posting immediatly before yours. Read the free book that is recomended and things should make a lot more sense. -Glenn KD5MFW
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 Subject :Re:New on Broadband-Hamnet (Need help).. 2013-10-26- 20:01:48 
N7DLV
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I downloaded the recommended manual Glenn. At over 500 pages, it's difficult reading, especially when there are no quick links to get to the relevent subject areas that I would be interested in. I hope I can muddle through the text one page at a time but that's not how I learn. Hopefully I'll be able to understand the material, since I do not have or plan on getting on Face Book due to privacy concerns.
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 Subject :Re:New on Broadband-Hamnet (Need help).. 2013-10-26- 22:44:59 
KC9QEA
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I'm going to step in here and I hope Glen doesn't mind.


I've only heard of HSMM-Mesh for about a month now. I saw that behemoth of an e-book and agree with one of the other posters that I do not learn that way either. One attribute that I do possess is a fundamental knowledge of network topology.

Soooo.......  If reading a 500 page e-book is not your, thing you could always do what I did. Grab a few routers (nodes), and upgrade the firmware, then pick up a couple of cheap/obsolete/antiquated computers or laptops and plug them into each node in a testbed environment.

The first thing I did was to install mumble (murmur) one one of the systems to act as a voice chat server and then the client on both of the computers. WALA!! instant voice chat.

I've recently come across a HOW-TO on creating a VoIP phone system that would run on a node and act as a "Central Control". Once I get a node configured to handle that I'll download some softphone software to act as the VoIP clients. Eventually I'll probably purchase some actual VoIP phones to use instead of the sotfphones.

I'm sure every Ham Club has a handful of guys/gals who have above average technical knowledge in regards to computers and computer networking. Solicit the help of these people. Get a couple of nodes connected, show them what you have and ask them what kind of resources they think could be provided over the MESH. This will not only get you some technical expertise that a single person may not possess, but it will also get other people involved in establishing nodes in your area.

I am fortunate, I have a few other Hams in my area that are interested in this project. Between the four of us, we all have some computer network knowledge/experience. We also understand that before trying to establish the application (ie. software) side. We need to solidify the network infrastructure. It does no good to build an elaborate house when the foundation is made of sand. We are looking into establishing some VPN tunnels (There is a HOW-To on this site) to help connect the guys who are out of reach, we are trying to get some locations with height to help increase the coverage area, and we are trying to show some of the other Hams in the area some of the future benefits of having a MESH network.

For those wanting to have "something" running on their network right off the bat. Set up a Mumble server for voice chat and look through the forums for a HOW-TO on creating a HAMChat node for text based communications. For experimentation purposes you could always pick up a couple of IP Cameras and set one of the node computers to act as the camera server and have the cameras on a couple of other nodes. If you know of a Ham who has a little web development experience you could take an old Pentium 4 machine and turn it into a web server for the MESH. This would in effect be a IntraMesh Website.

With a solid node-to-node connection, just about anything you can do over a traditional computer network, you can do over a MESH Network. You just need to know what resources you want to provide.

Just my 2 cents here.


73's

Jess

KC9QEA


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 Subject :Re:New on Broadband-Hamnet (Need help).. 2013-10-27- 10:40:40 
K5KTF
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One other resource to remember is the Elmer's List on here. (Look on the left menu once logged in).


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 Subject :Re:New on Broadband-Hamnet (Need help).. 2013-10-27- 15:21:50 
kv4pc
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If you are Kent you might want to check these guys out: http://www.seattlewireless.net/ These guys are one of the original Freenets that formed out of the same tools that BBHN uses, only much older and very widely deployed. I dare say there is going to be personnel overlap in your area between BBHN and Seattle Wireless, with the bulk of the expertize in the latter organization. Cheers; Bob
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