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 Subject :Emergency Power and PoE for Ubiquiti.. 2014-03-02- 14:26:56 
W3YJ
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I am new at working with Power over Ethernet.  Is there an easy way to provide PoE to a Ubiquiti router from a standard 12VDC power source?  I know I could use a 12VDC to 120VAC inverter but these are typically in short supply and a bit expensive.  Ideally I'd like to somehow be able to power a Ubiquiti router from PowerPoles.

Thanks to those who ported the BBHN firmware to the Ubiquiti hardware.  I now have a Bullet and AirGrid both running BBHN and I really like the devices.

73,

Harry Bloomberg W3YJ

hbloomb@gmail.com

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 Subject :Re:Emergency Power and PoE for Ubiquiti.. 2014-03-02- 15:05:31 
KG6JEI
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So I have not seen an official spec, but Mirocom sales site and some other reports I have seen seem to suggest 10vdc is OK to run these on so that means a 12v battery charge/discharge range is in the avaliable power range.


What you want is a PASSIVE POE INJECTOR with pins 4/5 as Positive and 7/8 as NEGATIVE  pins.


If this is a field setup you can probably get away with the really simple one such as follows: (I found it more expensive to try and make one so I didn't bother and went straight to buying though i haven't used any of these below yet) (Hint: just cut the ends and put Anderson on them)

http://www.amazon.com/HCP05-Passive-Injector-Splitter-Connector/dp/B00DZLSRJC/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1393814600&sr=1-1&keywords=passive+poe+injector

http://www.amazon.com/Passive-injector-Power-over-Ethernet/dp/B00EBCGJVW/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1393814600&sr=1-4&keywords=passive+poe+injector


(NOTE: always verify the pins before connecting an unknown POE injector to your device to avoid destroying it)


If you need to power several (such as I need to for the programming lab)  I have actually used:


http://www.amazon.com/WS-POE-8-ENC-Multi-Passive-Injector-devices/dp/B0075F7F2O/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1393814600&sr=1-3&keywords=passive+poe+injector


(at any given time 4+ have been plugged in and active in my lab off my central 13.8 supply)


If these will be outdoor permanent installs, especially if you get lighting,  I recommend something a bit more protective however with built in lighting protection such as:


http://www.l-com.com/power-over-ethernet-single-port-cat5-passive-poe-midspan-injector-w-integral-lightning-protection


If you will be trying to run these in a car with a motor, I don't know how well the on board SMPS handles up and downs. A capacitor on the power lines may not be a bad thing in a car deployment. I have  planned to be preemptive and instead install as 12v to 16v dc-dc switcher to bring the voltage up and clean it up for car usage but I have been known to over engineer.


I also plan on using the dc switcher to allow me to dump a battery at the bottom of a hill and run up to 300ft of CAT5 up to the top of a hill (Higher voltage, less current less system losses.) This also applies if you have a long run from your power source to your Ubiquiti device.


Useful calculator for POE voltage drop: http://blog.fosketts.net/toolbox/power-ethernet-calculator/


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 Subject :Re:Emergency Power and PoE for Ubiquiti.. 2014-03-02- 15:11:20 
W3YJ
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Yes, these would be for temporary field installations. Specifically we will be setting up a mesh at an airport for a drill and then an airshow. I envision dropping small gel-cell batteries where we'd like to have a mesh node and possibly a remote video camera. Thanks for the links and tips and I will check out these devices. 73, Harry W3YJ
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 Subject :Re:Emergency Power and PoE for Ubiquiti.. 2014-03-02- 15:44:12 
W3YJ
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This device looks like it ought to help me make sure the right voltages are getting to the right pins:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B9GFJAU/ref=pe_385040_30332200_pe_309540_26725410_item

73,

Harry Bloomberg W3YJ

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 Subject :Re:Emergency Power and PoE for Ubiquiti.. 2014-03-03- 11:11:28 
K6AH
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The Ubiquiti spec is 10.5Vdc at the device. I'm successfully running an M2 Bullet Titanium mounted on the roof of my truck being fed with 12V through 6' of CAT5 cable. Andre, K6AH
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