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Subject :HSMM-Mesh @ Detroit Maker Faire..
2013-07-29- 09:30:20
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How we used HSMM-MESH™
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HSMM-Mesh @ Detroit Maker Faire
Hello everyone.
Had my two nodes up and running this past weekend out at the Amateur Radio booth at the Detroit Maker Faire. Had a lot of interest from the hams that did not know about it and pointed them here and to the latest QST article.
Four hams came by (at different times) that knew what I was doing and we talked about what they were doing in their areas with hsmm. One had a node installed in his vehicle (which I never saw on my links page) and traveled the state to see what he could find. The others were 'thinking' about doing it and I encouraged them to get them up and running if nothing else :)
As for my setup, still working on how to install one node up high enough so as to be effective. Looking for a 'cheap' enclosure that will put up with the local conditions. Have plenty of antennas to choose from.
I also picked up a Raspberry pi in the Makershed after one of my volunteers brought his in and showed me exactly what it can do. Looking at this to go into the Xb along with my other node for rovering. Getting ideas on what could be done with the 'pi' and hsmm and other things :)
Didn't have the turn out this year like previous years because of weather and procrastination on my part in getting things organized. Other than that, it was a good showing this year.
James W8ISS
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Subject :Re:Raspberry Pi and Alfa 1 watt wireless USB up and running..
2013-07-29- 09:11:21
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Subject :Re:serverless voip?..
2013-07-29- 09:03:01
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N7EGO - I've not played with Linphone in a while, but if it works, Ekiga should not have any issues working. I had considered using my old android phones, but didn't want to use an access point, would love a way to get them to connect directly to the mesh, that would solve a lot of "little" issues, and the need for a full computer system.
KC2UGV - Just downloaded Serval on two of my android phones, I can get them to connect to each other, but they don't see the HSMM-MESH - any ideas? both phones are rooted and both are running a non-standard rom (I should say a thrid party rom) - so if you have any idea how to get them to connect to the HSMM-MESH that might solve everything there as well (I am guessing you are using an AP?) I do like what I see using Serval beta software thou.
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Subject :Re:Re:Reset router to default password..
2013-07-29- 08:44:55
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Reset router to default password
I have a vague recollection of there being some gotcha on 30/30/30 resets. It may have been that it bricks certain versions of the router. I think I saw this mentioned on some of the DDWRT web pages. Sorry I don't have a definitive reference, but be warned. I may try to see if I can Google it up later. Of course, just because it's posted somewhere doesn't mean it's true.
[KG1L 2013-07-29- 08:23:49]: I never did get the fail safe mode to work on my bricked router. I never got the "root@(none)$" prompt.
However, a 30-30-30 reset restored it back to where it was right after flashing with the hsmm-mwsh firmware. I went back to the directions for what to do after the flash and went on from there.
The password was reset to "hsmm" and the IP address was 172.27.0.1:8080. I had to set the node name and new password. |
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I'm not part of the development team, so take what I say with a grain of salt. I'm also easily confused.
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Subject :Re:Reset router to default password..
2013-07-29- 08:23:49
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Reset router to default password
I never did get the fail safe mode to work on my bricked router. I never got the "root@(none)$" prompt.
However, a 30-30-30 reset restored it back to where it was right after flashing with the hsmm-mwsh firmware. I went back to the directions for what to do after the flash and went on from there.
The password was reset to "hsmm" and the IP address was 172.27.0.1:8080. I had to set the node name and new password. |
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Subject :Re:Will having music on hold break the rules?..
2013-07-29- 08:07:11
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Will having music on hold break the rules?
Unfortunately, there's no definition of "music" in Part 97. I know I can find a Federal judge that would agree with me about "rap" not being music. :) |
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Subject :Re:Generic Hardware..
2013-07-29- 07:35:09
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KD0LIX and I are going to be working on something like this -- Mostly, piecemealing together all the stuff one would need on a random Linux Distro (we'll probably target Debian/Ubuntu first) to get vanilla wifi-enabled hardware (like cheap laptops) directly onto and extending the mesh. We've already had some good luck with olsrd and some hacks to Network-Manager's configuration. I'm hoping that by next field day, I can just throw some laptops up at each logging station and they'll form their own HSMM-compliant mesh for field day logging. We'll see how that goes. |
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Subject :Re:Reset router to default password..
2013-07-29- 06:56:55
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Subject :Re:Reset router to default password..
2013-07-29- 05:53:26
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wx5u |
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Reset router to default password
The button doesn't reset the password on HSMM routers. I think even the 30/30/30 "super" reset doesn't do that. I presume this is part of the OpenWRT system design. Corrections/confirmation welcome. Especially if someone has an easier reset process.
The TFTP installation will work, but it's a bit tricky, and maybe even a little dangerous in terms of bricking your router.
Look for "Installing Firmware with TFTP" here. Read the instructions carefully. There may be a fairly short window to start the download after you reset the router. You have to set your PC up to manually set its IP address. Otherwise, the autoconfig stuff will still be screwing around trying to autoconfig during the window to reflash the router. It's easier if you're running Linux and can use Dave's shell script, but it should be possible under windows if you can get the timing and machine config right.
The solution to use a switch can also help with the timing vs. autoconfig process.
[KB2NEA 2013-07-28- 09:03:07]: I can't remember my password on one of my nodes. Can I physically reset it to the default password? I tried holding down the reset button on the back of the router for 10 seconds but can't get in with root/hsmm still.
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Subject :Shiawasse Amateur Radio Association ~ 2013 FD Mesh..
2013-07-29- 03:56:31
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How we used HSMM-MESH™
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Shiawasse Amateur Radio Association ~ 2013 FD Mesh
The SARA group in Owosso, MI used HSMM-MESH with N3FJP FD Logging software for the 2013 Field Day event. We had five stations operating on four nodes and things worked "as advertised". We posted some links and setup a couple of HSMM web pages with lots of details for configuration. Start with http://www.w8qqq.org/hsmm.htm and then see the SARA HSMM file links at the bottom of the page. This effort would not be possible without all the support at www.hsmm-mesh.org and the software developers (THANK YOU from our group). Happy meshing to all... 73
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Subject :Re:Re:Will having music on hold break the rules?..
2013-07-29- 03:42:42
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Will having music on hold break the rules?
Excellent solution!
[wx5u 2013-07-25- 19:42:08]: I just realized the obvious answer. Put an MP3 file of code practice as the on hold "music." Or the Amateur Radio Newsline.
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Subject :Re:Raspberry Pi/Gumstix..
2013-07-29- 03:41:37
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I see there being a couple of advantages of the Pi over a re-purposed router:
* Flashing firmware to a router is inherently dangerous, and prone to bricking the router. And, often, there is no way to "unbrick" the device.
* Routers are inherently limited in their RAM and NVRAM.
* Routers are inherently limited to what can be built on them, due to CPU constraints.
* With most COTS routers, firmware is subject to OEM compatibility, and specific models.
Rasperberry Pi is a readily available device, with expandable RAM and Non-volatile storage, opening up new possibilities with a simple HW expansion. And, it's a completely open design (Anyone can get the parts, and build the same exact machine you have, it's not limited to a single set of vendors). |
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Subject :Re:serverless voip?..
2013-07-29- 03:33:55
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Try Serval's Batphone. Auto node discovery of other "phones" on the mesh, and no need to replace phone numbers (People can still dial the same phone number as you normally use) if you don't want to: http://servalproject.org/ |
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Subject :Re:Encryption Issue?..
2013-07-29- 02:24:00
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Instead of mumble server, why not just employ Asterisk, or FreeSwitch? Both of those are THE standards for SIP servers, and you don't have to encrypt/sign packets. Plus, they both employ standard SIP over UDP, which make it a very easy thing to support, vs mumble which uses it's own manner of doing VoIP.
I honestly cannot see for the life of me why one would choose Mumble over Asterisk/FreeSwitch... |
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Subject :Re:Re:Re:Raspberry Pi/Gumstix..
2013-07-28- 15:42:23
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And the Alfa AWUS036NH uses the Atheros chipset! Horray
[AC2IE 2013-07-26- 18:08:15]: ... the real advantage is that you can drive a cheap, relatively high-power USB wireless device, like the 2 watt Alfa AWUS036NH... |
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Subject :Re:serverless voip?..
2013-07-28- 13:38:35
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VoIP
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serverless voip?
I've experimented with using Linphone between mesh nodes. It's a SIP softphone that supports voice, video, and text messages. It works pretty well and does not require a server. I've also tried 3cxPhone on Android phones and tablets, connecting to the mesh via a mesh access point. It works pretty well and can send and receive calls from computers running Linphone. Lots of people have an old, unused Android phone sitting around collecting dust, and those can make pretty inexpensive phone handsets for a mesh if their batteries are still good. |
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Subject :serverless voip?..
2013-07-28- 12:38:15
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I've been reading and looking at the forums for a bit, and I'd like to throw my 2 cents in for what it matters. I'm thinking "we" need a voip system that is serverless, along the lines of something peer to peer. I've come up with a couple of ideas, and wanted to see what if anything anyone else thinks. one is a softphone - Ekiga it does work on a lan without setting up a user on the Ekiga servers, Ekiga uses a SIP protocol. And for the most part to make a call across the LAN you just use the IP address of the computer you are trying to reach, of course both machines have to be running Ekiga. the down side as I see it is it's a softphone, which means you need a computer to run it. The up side is it is serverless, and works pretty good. I think it also supports video - but I have not tried that just using the LAN. the second thing I came up with is something called a Konnect made by Aksys networks, these are IP phones (SIP??) that were meant for office use, don't require a PBX or hosted service. They look fairly simple to setup watching a few of the videos on the website (konnectoffice.com). The downside that I see is they are expensive phones, even used (I found a few on eBay), the upside is they don't look they require any addition computer or server, and it looks like it would work on a LAN as a standalone. I am going to try and save a little cash up and see if I can't get one of the konnects for a decent price. The third thing is there are quite a few p2p voip projects on sourceforge - the most complete looks like something called F-Talk P2P Encrypted Secure VoIP, I don't know if this would work for the needs of the mesh, but it does look like an interesting project. and Does have an Android client, as well as Windows Linux & Mac OS, the downside to it is it's flaky, I've tried it a couple of times with my Android. You also need a code to enter to call teh other machine (Works something like join.me or logme.in) It is also a softphone so you need a computer to run it. At this point I don't see an upside to it, however I personally plan on keeping an eye on the project and see if it does improve and become more useable. Any thoughts? Any addition ideas? Anyone have access or own a Konnect phone?
-LeRoy, KD8BXP
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Subject :Reset router to default password..
2013-07-28- 09:03:07
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Subject :Re:HamChat Server..
2013-07-28- 08:47:51
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STUPID QUESTION: I am inferring that the files inside the zip have to be uploaded to the memory of the router? How does one do that? FTP? SSH? something like that? What path should they reside?
Thanx!
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Subject :Re:Power and DMZ lights on reboot..
2013-07-27- 18:45:01
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Power and DMZ lights on reboot
If anything, that's an OpenWRT bug. There are peculiarities on different versions of hardware, but I'll wager that the actual mesh related parts of the firmware works identically on all of them. 73 ad5oo |
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