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 Subject :Success/Failure for Different Router Models.. 2013-12-13- 05:04:47 
wx5u
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Most of us use the WRT-54G router models listed here.

We have images of the standard BBHN firmware for some other routers, but not a lot of experience with users actually loading the firmware on these routers. 

In particular, we have images for the following routers:

USR5461
WA840G
WE800G
WR850G
WRT150N
WRT300N_v1
WRT54G3G

If you have attempted to load the BBHN firmware on one of these routers, please report your success/failure here. 

I'd be especially interested in any tricks you had to do to get it to work, or what you tried.


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 Subject :Success/Failure for Different Router Models.. 2013-12-13- 05:07:12 
wx5u
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WRT-150N

Here is a link to a few user failures with WRT-150N.

Has anyone had success with WRT-150N routers?

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 Subject :Success/Failure for Different Router Models.. 2013-12-13- 21:55:54 
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Also, please list what versions of the router hardware you tried.  It's usually listed on the label if the manufacturer bothers to tell you what version you have.

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 Subject :Re:Success/Failure for Different Router Models.. 2013-12-14- 13:34:11 
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I have personally tested the WRT54G3G-ST and it works just fine. There are report that the WRT54G3G-AT also works just fine too (someone else on this forum has the G3G-AT). These two different devices are virtually the exact same unit and are like evil twins to one another and the WRT54G3G...meaning they only accept firmware with a different 4-byte header when flashing from stock Linksys firmware. I will post those two firmware images in the next 24 hours.
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 Subject :Re:Success/Failure for Different Router Models.. 2014-03-06- 08:55:38 
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I tried flashing a USR5461 with the latest BBHN firmware and couldn't get it to work. Has anyone out there had any success with flashing this router? Tips/Tricks/Suggestions welcomed please!

James KH2SR



[wx5u 2013-12-13- 05:04:47]:

Most of us use the WRT-54G router models listed here.

We have images of the standard BBHN firmware for some other routers, but not a lot of experience with users actually loading the firmware on these routers. 

In particular, we have images for the following routers:

USR5461
WA840G
WE800G
WR850G
WRT150N
WRT300N_v1
WRT54G3G

If you have attempted to load the BBHN firmware on one of these routers, please report your success/failure here. 

I'd be especially interested in any tricks you had to do to get it to work, or what you tried.



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 Subject :Re:Success/Failure for Different Router Models.. 2014-03-14- 15:34:25 
kb9zmr
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I have been successful flashing a WR850G V2. It had some quirks, mainly I lost Ethernet after the flash even after resetting my laptop's IP using IPCONFIG. The laptop just could not find the DHCP server on the router. I also have to say that the router seemed to be sketchy *before* the flash. Sometimes the original admin web pages would not load. I let it sit for *weeks* figuring it was bricked, but then I realized I had not tried wireless, like I have with other WRT54G's. Boom. I was in and after the config & reboot, it is working fine.
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 Subject :Re:Re:Success/Failure for Different Router Models.. 2014-03-15- 10:30:53 
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I have had a similar experience, except i originally lost ethernet, but after configuring the 1.0 firmware (just setting call sign and password) i lost wireless as well. Any help would be greatly appreciated.




[kb9zmr 2014-03-14- 15:34:25]:

I have been successful flashing a WR850G V2. It had some quirks, mainly I lost Ethernet after the flash even after resetting my laptop's IP using IPCONFIG. The laptop just could not find the DHCP server on the router. I also have to say that the router seemed to be sketchy *before* the flash. Sometimes the original admin web pages would not load. I let it sit for *weeks* figuring it was bricked, but then I realized I had not tried wireless, like I have with other WRT54G's. Boom. I was in and after the config & reboot, it is working fine.

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 Subject :Re:Success/Failure for Different Router Models.. 2014-03-15- 19:09:59 
kb9zmr
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So you are *not* seeing a BroadbandHamnet-v1 SSID from a wireless scan? Did you try a 30/30/30 reset? Can you ping it? I found that with one of my newer laptops, right after I change the password & node ID, it cannot get a new IP from the router doing an ipconfig /release & ipconfig /renew. Another XP laptop has no issue. But the first laptop caused me to waste hours by making me believe I had bricked 3 different routers.
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 Subject :Re:Success/Failure for Different Router Models.. 2014-04-30- 04:14:33 
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I just love to reply to myself, so I thought I should let interested parties know that I bought a second WR850G for $15 and flashed it. I had none of the connectivity issues I had with the previous one. I could connect to it through an ethernet cable after the firmware update and performed the second step of the setup. It did a couple connects/reconnects after the setup change and then found the other two nodes I have running in my house.


EDIT: Forgot to mention I had to do an ipconfig /release and ipconfig /renew after each step, but I expected that. It seems to be good form to do that after each step, even if it isn't in the instructions.

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 Subject :Re:Success/Failure for Different Router Models.. 2014-04-30- 07:39:04 
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Hello Everyone! I just started testing out Broadband Hamnet and I am intrigued on the possibilities. I decided to attempt to load up my Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 Router with the HSMM firmware. I have a number of these routers sitting around my house since they were my Go to router for the VoIP installations I have previously done. It has the same Broadcomm BCM5352 processor and same RAM/Memory as the Linksys routers. After risking bricking the thing, it turns out that the firmware that works for the WRT54GL router will also work on the Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 router! If you can get your hands on one of these routers, I'd recommend it! I will continue to test this router and see how it performs. 73s Chris VE3SKH
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 Subject :Re:Success/Failure for Different Router Models.. 2014-05-02- 16:32:27 
kb9zmr
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The Buffalo seems to be at a higher price point than a Linksys. Is there an advantage to it over a Linksys?

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 Subject :Success/Failure for Different Router Models.. 2014-05-02- 21:14:07 
wx5u
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It's probably a question of what you happen to acquire surplus vs. buying them outright.




[kb9zmr 2014-05-02- 16:32:27]:

The Buffalo seems to be at a higher price point than a Linksys. Is there an advantage to it over a Linksys?


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 Subject :Re:Success/Failure for Different Router Models.. 2014-05-03- 02:36:03 
kb9zmr
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I was actually going by prices on eBay. Although I am always hip to having an alternate to the Linksys, which is the point of this thread.

I was just hoping they had higher output or some other advantage.


On a slight off topic, is there a chart that shows routers and their max output on this site? I haven't found one yet.

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 Subject :Re:Success/Failure for Different Router Models.. 2014-05-03- 05:10:21 
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Have you looked at the Ubiquiti Gear?

Ubiquiti was added as OFFFICIALLY SUPPORTED with several 2.4ghz models and many more 2.4 and 5ghz models to be added in next release (and chances for. 3ghz and 900mhz since the gear is avaliable)

Cost may be a bit more new than a used Linksys but after you get done putting a Linsksys unit in a weather resistant  box, buying adapters, cooling fans, heaters etc the costs for a Linksys unit adds up.

The Ubiquiti gear is outdoor rated (temperature range as wide as -40 to +80c compared to Linksys 0-40c) meant to be installed in mixed weather. They have higher RF output (as high as 10dbm more than Linksys at 600mw) and up to a 10db more sensitive receiver(giving you a 20db extra link budget).


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 Subject :Success/Failure for Different Router Models.. 2014-05-04- 09:41:12 
wx5u
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eBay prices are probably a reflection of there being a LOT of WRT-54G's out there, and there being more people who are selling and buying the old ones.  More of a "fair market" price. 

I'm not sure about any other hardware differences, but I believe the WHR has one external antenna and one internal antenna.




[kb9zmr 2014-05-03- 02:36:03]:

I was actually going by prices on eBay. Although I am always hip to having an alternate to the Linksys, which is the point of this thread.

I was just hoping they had higher output or some other advantage.


On a slight off topic, is there a chart that shows routers and their max output on this site? I haven't found one yet.


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 Subject :Re:Success/Failure for Different Router Models.. 2014-05-04- 10:40:04 
kb9zmr
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I do have an Ubiquiti Bullet flashed with a 15db antenna. The cost of it was about $150 total. Plus, it needs an injector for the POE. My 300 watt inverter didn't seem to have enough juice to power it, but my 750 worked fine.

But originally I was just asking if two units were significantly different and if the higher priced one had something unique about it. I didn't have some sort of motive or axe to grind for some reason.

We are setting up a MESH of permanent and mobile nodes for emergency situations. Since it is ALL out of pocket from only a few of us, the difference of $10-$15 per unit adds up when you are looking to purchase 12 or more of them plus some system to power each node off the grid.

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 Subject :Re:Success/Failure for Different Router Models.. 2014-05-04- 13:06:37 
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For me I tested it because I happened to have half a dozen sitting around my house. (or more) they were my go to router for office VoIP installations. I see it more as an alternative to the WRT54G(L) routers as they are harder to get now, or if you happen to see a Buffalo router you can also get them. It opens up the market to more choices. Are they better? Hard to say. They are technically smaller than the WRT54G units, so for mobile use that may help. It does only have 1 antenna on it, but it is removable so you can replace it with whatever you need. So far my testing has gone well. At first I thought there was a problem with it getting an NTP link to correct the time, but I figured I made a rookie mistake connecting the LAN cable into the wrong port. Once tested properly it seemed to work well and got the NTP time correctly. I do like what the Ubiquiti routers have to offer, and see them as a great option for permanent external nodes, where the WRT54G and the Buffalo are best for residential and mobile deployment solutions. All in all, it just means there are more options available when looking for nodes. VE3SKH
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 Subject :Re:Success/Failure for Different Router Models.. 2014-05-04- 13:48:15 
kb9zmr
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I am pushing for everyone in our county ARES to add a Bullet to their shack and maybe add some type of node in their vehicle. When I am not doing demos with the "lightsabre" (the Bullet attached to the 15db antenna), I have it mounted on the side of my house with a Linksys in my shack attached to a couple PCs.

And I am all for testing other units. After all, the old, cheap Linksys units will eventually be gone.

Smaller form than Linksys is a definite plus for me. I currently have a Motorola WR850V2 (only V2 have detachable antenna) hooked up in my trunk. If I can find a unit that is smaller and will run on the 12V line, personally I would pay $10 more. I am already running out of space with the radios back there.


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 Subject :Re:Success/Failure for Different Router Models.. 2014-05-04- 14:25:03 
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I see you had noted using an inverter to power the Ubiquiti gear earlier. Not sure why the inverter have problems running the injectors.

If you haven't tried it yet the gear can run with a passive POE injector in a vehicle from the standard 12v of a car

(Operating range is around 10.5 to 24v)  no need to run an inverter to convert to 120v only to down convert to a lower voltage (15 or 24 depending on the Ubiquiti power injector)

I have 4 nodes at the moment in my demo lab running off my standard shack supply feed (13.8 off the rig-runner) (along with my other radios)

You may need to use a dc-dc converter or an inverter and an injector if the line needed to be long run of CAT5, but for a node that is located on a pole on a roof top (a few feet from a battery or large feed to injector) or inside a car where you have limited distance you need to travel no need to upconvert.


A local ham has one here actually mounted outside his car right to the antenna with only a CAT5 feed out to the unit and has reported no issues at all over the course of using it.

Higher voltages of the Ubiquiti injectors (or a DC-DC converter) are useful if the runs going to be long (Say maybe 25feet as a good point that you should do the math on a POE drop calculator)   A quick  math check says even at 12.0v source voltage (at the injector -- allowing for battery discharge over time) even 50 feet should still be 10.97 volts at peak power from the device (8watt), though the higher window you can give this the better obviously.

The 15v injector Ubiquiti provides is a good voltage for many run lengths at 25-150foot length. The 24v is meant for the longer runs of say 150-328feet (or more if you don't plan to plug a computer into it)

Biggest issue for locating (on emergency power) a Ubiquiti node is the power feed since the CAT5 is only basically 21awg you can have a lot of loss at 12v at 8watts --- Similar issues to a Linksys feed from a battery.  Just have to make sure where you switch to injecting the power the CAT5 line doesn't have too much drop.

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 Subject :Re:Success/Failure for Different Router Models.. 2014-05-04- 16:16:15 
kb9zmr
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What gear is being used to do the POE injecting from a 12v source? The only thing I own is the 1A 24v Ubiquiti POE injector that uses AC.

For quick deployment, the 5 Linksys nodes I have run fine with a banana plug in the cigarette lighter. I would like something as close to off-the-shelf as possible for Ubiquiti since one misplaced wire could make the Bullet let out $100 worth of magic smoke. I have already lost an IP camera & a Linksys to a bad portable power pack this week, so I am a bit jumpy.

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