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 Subject :Getting into the Mesh Node with WiFi.. 2013-12-07- 03:16:55 
wx5u
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Topic : Getting into the Mesh Node with WiFi

If the Apple gadget works like a normal wireless router, try http://localnode:8080

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 Subject :Re:Looking anyone in SE Michigan / NW Ohio / Windsor for testing.. 2013-12-07- 03:00:38 
KD8VWT
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Topic : Looking anyone in SE Michigan / NW Ohio / Windsor for testing


That was my understanding, and the reason I asked my question. What the OP is proposing is to run a 145 mile link running two thirds the length of Lake Erie.

To help those unfamiliar with the area, there is not much natural elevation on either end to get line of sight. In the West, SW Ontario, SE Michigan, and NW Ohio are about as flat as terrain gets, as the area was alternately scoured glaciers or flooded beneath the glacial lakes that preceded Lake Erie. On the Eastern end, there is a ~300 foot ridge that parallels the lake shore a few miles inland.

Line of sight would require a pair of 2500 ft towers.

So I'm guessing the only way this could work would be to use some kind of atmospheric ducting. It seems this is possible in the 10GHz region. This link documents a ~900mile hop along the Baja peninsula. http://www.slideshare.net/wayne_yoshida_KH6WZ/breaking-a-twoway-10ghz-distance-record

The question would be if this would be possible with 2.4Ghz?




[wx5u 2013-12-05- 23:43:22]:

1) First, get line of sight.  Which means some combination of height, location, and finding a gap through obstructions.  Remember at 2.4 GHz, even leaves will block the signal, so you have to be above the trees.


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 Subject :How is LAN Subnet Chosen?.. 2013-12-06- 19:42:26 
n6mef
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Topic : How is LAN Subnet Chosen?

The firmware installation instructions mention that the wireless address is based on the last three bytes of the WiFi MAC address.  But it doesn't mention how the LAN address is chosen.  I just flashed two different machines. And they ended up with two different LAN subnets.  How are the LAN subnet numbers chosen?

Thanks,

Michael - N6MEF

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 Subject :Re:Need help advertivising ftp service.. 2013-12-06- 16:22:27 
K5KTF
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Topic : Need help advertivising ftp service

Try doing an address reservation for the latitude, then after saving that, you should be able to go tot he mesh status with the Mac and you would see a bullet under -2 of whatever hostname you give the Latitude.

Then try and FTP to the bullet'd hostname, NOT the nodename.

When in X-Host Direct mode, you do not need to forward any ports, as Direct mode (default in 1.0.0 now) is what we used to call (and other routers call) DMZ mode, forwarding ALL ports FOR THAT SINGLE IP ADDRESS/HOSTNAME  to that machine.

You really only need port forwarding if you change the LAN mode to NAT (which was default in 0.4.3/previous releases of the firmware), and what I usually change all mine back to, since I am so used to it. But Dave wants everyone to get to learn and know the X-Host Direct mode way of doing things, its usually simpler.

So then, the advertised service would be " ftp://bullet'd hostname:21"

Sorry for the confusion, as I keep forgetting about the Direct mode being default now. Its only been 6 months..... :-)

Pitt is It !

KTF




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 Subject :Re:Need help advertivising ftp service.. 2013-12-06- 15:51:07 
W3YJ
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Topic : Need help advertivising ftp service

Let's try that again...I don't the the attachment was posted.


Attachments
 mesh_config.png [94 KB] :: Screenshot of node configuration
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 Subject :Re:Need help advertivising ftp service.. 2013-12-06- 15:49:13 
W3YJ
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Topic : Need help advertivising ftp service

I'm attaching a screenshot of how I have the services and port forwarding for node W3YJ-2 configured.  Maybe this will help.

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 Subject :Re:Need help advertivising ftp service.. 2013-12-06- 15:42:52 
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Topic : Need help advertivising ftp service

Thanks for the responses.

First, the is a two mesh system, W3YJ-1 and W3YJ-2.  W3YJ-2 is the system with the ftp server and is running Ubuntu.  W3YJ-1 is attached to a Mac running OS X.

Second...both systems can ping w3yj-2.local.mesh by name, so it appears that DNS is working correctly.  However, I cannot ftp through this mesh node.  I've tried this from a web browser and from local ftp client.

Here's the interesting part.  I installed nmap on the Linux system attached to W3YJ-2, and here's the results of the portscan:

hpb@w3yj-Latitude-2120:~$ nmap w3yj-2.local.mesh

Starting Nmap 5.21 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2013-12-06 22:33 EST
Nmap scan report for w3yj-2.local.mesh (10.86.255.64)
Host is up (0.00061s latency).
rDNS record for 10.86.255.64: W3YJ-2.local.mesh
Not shown: 994 closed ports
PORT     STATE SERVICE
53/tcp   open  domain
2003/tcp open  finger
2004/tcp open  mailbox
2006/tcp open  invokator
2222/tcp open  unknown
8080/tcp open  http-proxy

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 18.71 seconds

It looks to me like port 21 is not open on the mesh node that is advertising the service.  Also notice that I was able to portscan by using nthe name of the node.

Does this info help any?  Thanks!

No mesh nodes yet at Heinz Field.  I'm down there on Saturdays photographing University of Pittsburgh football...maybe I'll bring one next season.

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 Subject :Re:Need help advertivising ftp service.. 2013-12-06- 14:36:35 
K5KTF
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Topic : Need help advertivising ftp service

If you can hit the server from across the mesh via IP, then it sounds like a DNS issue.

Try, from the remote node/PC, ftp://W3YJ-2.local.mesh:21 (type it into a browser/ftp client)

If THAT works, then you need to go into the remote PC, into its networking settings, and add the domain "local.mesh"

In windows, go into Network Settings, Local Area Connection-Properties, Internet Protocol (or IPv4) Properties, Advanced button, DNS tab, and where it says APPEND THESE DNS SUFFIXES (IN ORDER) click ADD, then type in local.mesh and OK all the way out.

THEN try to hit the FTP again without the local.mesh in the URL.

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When you guys get mesh nodes on Heinz Field, let me know so I can come visit to "inspect the nodes", preferably on a Sunday  ;-) ;-) . Ill wear my #83 Home jersey like I do every Sunday in the Winter ! 

73

Jim

K5KTF

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 Subject :Re:Getting involved. Let's build something... 2013-12-06- 14:07:54 
KK4IOH
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I am here. I have no equipment in hand yet but will someday soon.
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 Subject :Re:Need help advertivising ftp service.. 2013-12-06- 12:56:10 
KF5JIM
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Topic : Need help advertivising ftp service

Do you have one or two BBHN nodes?

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 Subject :Need help advertivising ftp service.. 2013-12-06- 09:36:59 
W3YJ
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Topic : Need help advertivising ftp service

Just got started with hsmm.  Western PA ARES held a recent install fest and we are very enthused about hsmm.

I've got a question...I'd like to make it easy for other users on the mesh to access an ftp server, so I'd like to advertise it in the mesh status.  Alas, I think I'm following all the steps in the documentation but I can't make the link for the advertised ftp service connect to the ftp server.

Specifics:

   - ftp server is proftpd on Ubuntu Linux.  I can connect through anonymous login both locally and from other machines on the mesh using the IP address of the Linux system.  I can also connect through web browsers on other machines by entering the URL ftp://10.183.250.3 and through old-fashioned ftp via command line.

   - Configured the service to advertise as ftp://W3YJ-2:21 .

   - Configured external to internal port forwarding on port 21.

   - Configured ftp server to run on port 21.

   - Enabled ports on ftp server for passive ftp.


This all sounds to me like it ought to work...what am I missing?


73,

Harry Bloomberg W3YJ

hbloomb@gmail.com

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 Subject :HSMM-Mesh and AmprNet.. 2013-12-06- 06:38:09 
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Topic : HSMM-Mesh and AmprNet

Hi,

I have run Mesh Node and I would like connect this node  to AmprNet. I have running AmprNet gate on Raspberry PI where I have local services like WWW , Forum, Mumble server, ICAST server for video stream, webmail running on Citadel package (very nice package to start SMTP/POP/IMAP/Webmail and BBS in one). This server is steup as AmprNet gate with IP address 44.165.32.xx. Server is connected to Internet via router OpenWRT and now I need get access to local Mesh hamradio users to my server http://sp2ong.ampr.org but how to do this ? To this server only can connect host with 44/8 class.

Maybe I need on HSMM-Mesh v1.0 run IPIP tunel to my RaspberyPI Amprnet gate and change IP address on LAN to 44.165.32.xx with one IP and tunel to AmprNet ?

Thank you for any help


Waldek sp2ong 

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 Subject :Re:Getting into the Mesh Node with WiFi.. 2013-12-06- 05:31:35 
KD0TYP
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Topic : Getting into the Mesh Node with WiFi

I connected an Apple Extreme base station to my mesh-node (LAN on node to WAN on base station) and would like to access the node wirelessly. From a nearby desktop, I can connect via wi-fi to the base station, but what browser address would I use to access the node? I've tried http://172.27.0.2 and .1 with no luck. Thanks.
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 Subject :Re:Request that HSMM-Mesh firmware be created for Ubiquiti Products.. 2013-12-06- 01:29:47 
K5KTF
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Topic : Request that HSMM-Mesh firmware be created for Ubiquiti Products

There is a Beta test program underway for UBNT firmware. It just requires the chosen few to buy their own gear at this time.

So now its just a matter of time and effort.

Patience is the virtue :-)

KTF


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 Subject :Looking anyone in SE Michigan / NW Ohio / Windsor for testing.. 2013-12-05- 23:43:22 
wx5u
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Topic : Looking anyone in SE Michigan / NW Ohio / Windsor for testing


1) First, get line of sight.  Which means some combination of height, location, and finding a gap through obstructions.  Remember at 2.4 GHz, even leaves will block the signal, so you have to be above the trees.

2)If you're far enough away that it doesn't work, use high gain beam antennas pointed at each other.  You multiply the signal strength of your signal, and of the signal you're receiving.  The narrow beam width also cuts down on the noise level from other users of 2.4 GHz. 

Do not simply use amplifiers.  There are several problems with that.

3) Use the mesh network, and place mesh nodes between the points that need to communicate.




[KD8VWT 2013-12-05- 14:01:32]:

Out of naive engineering curiosity, how do contend with the radio horizon?


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 Subject :Re:Request that HSMM-Mesh firmware be created for Ubiquiti Products.. 2013-12-05- 18:32:49 
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Topic : Request that HSMM-Mesh firmware be created for Ubiquiti Products

What type of funding would you need to get the Ubiquity firmware up and running? I'm sure we could raise the funds.
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 Subject :Re:Looking anyone in SE Michigan / NW Ohio / Windsor for testing.. 2013-12-05- 14:01:32 
KD8VWT
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Topic : Looking anyone in SE Michigan / NW Ohio / Windsor for testing

Out of naive engineering curiosity, how do contend with the radio horizon?

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 Subject :Re:How to monitor the WRT54G boot process & install drivers?.. 2013-12-05- 06:46:35 
kv4pc
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Forum : Firmware
Topic : How to monitor the WRT54G boot process & install drivers?

The command dmesg will show you the kernel messages generated during the last boot cycle.

A good write up with reasonable examples is here:

http://www.linfo.org/dmesg.html

This might also prove to be useful:

http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/log.essentials

73;

Bob KV4PC

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 Subject :How to monitor the WRT54G boot process & install drivers?.. 2013-12-04- 09:05:25 
N6SXR
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Topic : How to monitor the WRT54G boot process & install drivers?

I am adding the USB option to a WRT54G V2 as outlined by K5KTF.  When it gets to the part on installing the drivers/sw for the USB ports I notice he is displaying the boot process, etc.  How is this being done on the router?  Is there a specific port or something to connect to to monitor what is essentially the console.

Kirk - N6SXR

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 Subject :Re:random non-mesh related hardware question - Dataradio Gemini G3.. 2013-12-04- 05:24:30 
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Topic : random non-mesh related hardware question - Dataradio Gemini G3

There are two UHF models. One covers the ham band (GPG36045-13018: 403 - 460 MHZ), the other is 450 - 512 MHz. They are nice units, however the Gemini G3 is not designed to talk modem to modem (firmware limitation). It requires a "Paragon" base station in the middle. Also the over the air protocol is both proprietary and unpublished, so that poses problematic for Part 97.
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