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 Subject :Re:Problem with Nanostation.. 2014-10-27- 03:31:44 
KG6JEI
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Starting in version 3.0.0b02  on Ubiquiti this can be accomplished by just pressing and holding the reset button for 5 seconds (after the node has fully started)  it will reset the password for you and re-enable dhcp.  You can then go back to mesh setup and change the password and make any config changes you would like.  A 15 second press and hold would reset the node to "just flashed" status (resetting everything you did since you originally flashed the firmware image)

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 Subject :Re:Problem with Nanostation.. 2014-10-26- 23:57:32 
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No problem. I'm glad you were able to get it back up and running!

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 Subject :Re:Problem with Nanostation.. 2014-10-26- 23:54:54 
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Many thanks, all working and I can again resetup NS M2 73 Waldek sp2ong
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 Subject :Re:Problem with Nanostation.. 2014-10-26- 23:22:55 
KF5JIM
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Factory

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 Subject :Re:Problem with Nanostation.. 2014-10-26- 23:19:25 
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Ok thanks, I will try. But one question more what kind firmware I need use in this situation SYSUPGRADE or FACTORY ?
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 Subject :Re:Problem with Nanostation.. 2014-10-26- 22:56:35 
KF5JIM
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IMO, the easiest method would be to start over again. Instructions are found here (scroll to TFTP): http://ubnt.hsmm-mesh.org/products/BBHN/wiki/HowTo/FlashUbiquiti

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 Subject :Problem with Nanostation.. 2014-10-26- 22:36:37 
sp2ong
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Hi,

I have problem with my Nanostation M2. I have upload BBHN firmware and setup node after reboot
working very well. But after my manually changed via SSH session and reboot  I can not connect to my nanostation.
How to reset to default or other way connect to UBNT ???

I am looking similar way like for WR54
http://www.broadband-hamnet.org/documentation/71-using-safe-mode-to-reset-a-forgotten-password.html


73 Waldek SP2ONG
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 Subject :Re:UBNT Airgrid gets poor reception when running BBHN firmware.. 2014-10-26- 17:57:37 
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If you do find out that BBHN does indeed have a significantly less performance let us know as we always want to improve.

I will point you at this forum post, it  doesn't answer airGrid vs bullet directly but does give a bit of feedback on one users experianxe with airGrid's.

http://www.broadband-hamnet.org/hsmm-mesh-forums/view-postlist/forum-1-general/topic-1208-your-first-node-should-be-a-nanostationm2.html

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 Subject :Re:UBNT Airgrid gets poor reception when running BBHN firmware.. 2014-10-26- 17:26:08 
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Thanks for the reply. Not sure what the last seen time was. Probably greater than 5 seconds. That would explain the 300% difference in the number of networks seen. However it doesn't explain the poor performance of our Airgrid. I guess it's time to send it back and see if a different piece of hardware performs better. Have others experienced poorer performance with the Airgrid vs Bullet? Is that typical? Thanks Brandon, K7BBR
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 Subject :Re:3.0.0b02 is out!.. 2014-10-26- 13:19:50 
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it certainly is a nice feature! thanks to the dev team for your hard work!
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 Subject :Re:3.0.0b02 is out!.. 2014-10-26- 12:09:58 
KG6JEI
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Officially, no.

It slipped in to the first 3.0.0 beta but was withheld under concerns of timing of button press length.  It is also avaliable ONLY on Ubiquiti at this time.   5 seconds is a reset of password and re-enable dhcp ( great if you hit MESH AP mode accidentally) and 15 seconds to restore to "just flashed" (removes any installed programs add on patches and resets all configs)

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 Subject :Re:Your first node should be a NanoStationM2.. 2014-10-26- 11:44:35 
k5dlq
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Good info Clint. I just picked up a used one for $20 to try!
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 Subject :3.0.0b02 is out!.. 2014-10-26- 11:38:27 
k5dlq
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Topic : 3.0.0b02 is out!

Looks like 3.0.0b02 experimental is available!

did we have a bbhnrecoverymode option prior to this release??



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 Subject :Re:UBNT Airgrid gets poor reception when running BBHN firmware.. 2014-10-26- 09:04:48 
KG6JEI
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What was the "last seen" time on those networks ?

We throw out anything older than 5 seconds in the BBHM GUI IIRC.  I've seen cases where 30+ Networks show up in the backend but were only getting one beacon packet every 10 seconds (beacons are normally sent 10 times a second) so it doesn't make sense to keep them listed if we are loosing over 99% of packets are being lost.


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 Subject :UBNT Airgrid gets poor reception when running BBHN firmware.. 2014-10-26- 08:50:17 
k7bbr
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After having a lot of trouble with a UBNT Airgrid that had BBHN firmware installed (poor reception, unable to connect to other nodes unless in very close proximity), we flashed it back to UBNT firmware in hopes of returning a possibly defective device. However, we noticed that after flashing the unit back to UBNT firmware a site survey revealed around 30 plus sites in view vs around 11 sites with the exact same physical conditions only minutes before the switching firmware.

This leads us to believe the hardware was ok, but there was something in the BBHN firmware that was causing the issue. Has anyone else seen this problem with using an Airgrid for BBHN and getting poor reception? Any suggestions to try to get it to work, or do we need to just send it back and get a Bullet instead. Thanks.

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 Subject :Re:Running ubiquiti nodes on batteries.. 2014-10-26- 03:22:27 
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Topic : Running ubiquiti nodes on batteries

We'll described, Clint. If you plan to use a 12v battery, then you need to know that Ubiquiti devices require a minimum of 10.5Vdc at the RJ45 connector during transmit (max current draw). The longer the CAT cable is, the more the voltage will drop across it. I have found that 20-25 meters is about the limit for running at 12V. There are 12v to 24V convertors on the market if you need farther runs. Andre, K6AH
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 Subject :Re:Running ubiquiti nodes on batteries.. 2014-10-26- 03:02:27 
AE5CA
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The Ethernet cable connected to your AirGrid has 8 wires.  They are grouped as 4 twisted pairs.  10/100 Ethernet only uses 2 of the 4 pairs for data.  Actual data will only be on pins 1 & 2, and 3 & 6.  This leaves the other two pairs available to supply power to the AirGrid.  POE means we are sending Power over the Ethernet cable.

On page 5 of the AirGrid Datasheet available at http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/airgridm/airGrid_HP.pdf, It states that the Power Method is "Passive Power over Ethernet (Pairs 4, 5+; 7, 8 Return)".  The POE adapter that comes with the AirGrid takes 120 VAC and converts it to 24 VDC.  It then places the positive output on pins 4 & 5 of the Ethernet cable and the return on pins 7 & 8.

The POE injector that Andre referred to replaces the POE adapter that came with your AirGrid.  Instead of having a power supply build into it, there is an input for power that can be connected to a battery or an external power supply.

While it is hard to find definitive data, my research has found that there is no problem powering a ubnt node with 12 VDC.  You just need to supply that power to the node with the positive on pins 4 & 5 and the return on pins 7 & 8.

When I indicated verify the pinout of your device, some POE injectors reverse this polarity or may use a different set of pins.  There are multiple versions out there.  

You may want to also look at this thread from the forums:

http://www.broadband-hamnet.org/hsmm-mesh-forums/view-postlist/forum-794/topic-794-emergency-power-and-poe-for-ubiquiti.html.

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 Subject :Re:Running ubiquiti nodes on batteries.. 2014-10-25- 20:33:46 
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Thank you both for your replies. Being a novice I am assuming that an injector is a device which plugs into the Poe  which allows a way of feeding power to the system from an external source. This is an excellent way of doing it but I would have to ensure the pin connections are properly observed. To date I have not found ubiquiti as being forward in providing technical information on their products. Can you suggest a site I can use for the purpose.


having said this the second option of feeding the node with 12volts or 24volts for that matter, need a detailed explanation of how to go about it. I would be obliged to receive more information regarding the matter.

thank you again.


chris 9h 1bw.

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 Subject :Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Virtual Tunnels.. 2014-10-25- 09:55:23 
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You would need that block on 100% of the nodes in the mesh network, not just the gateway nodes. In otherwords it would have to be in mainline. I'm not sure I see that happening, I know I would personally oppose such a patch on the grounds it interferes with global internet routing.

Every node will need to see the IP address as part of the routing table method for how OLSRD works it goes out in the MID packets (and it has to be in them) to advertise route paths.

Every node on the network can connect to the WAN and would possibly forward the packet out to the WAN this is why the block would have to be on 100% of the nodes and not just the GW nodes.

Unless your planning on heavily modifying OLSRD to have each node remove some of the data (and I'm not sure how much that would confuse the daemon off hand if one node knows the route fully and the others don't)




[SM7I 2014-10-25- 09:21:34]:

Well, I agree with you partly, but it´s a small issue to address by the means of some extra code to implement as a failsafe to ensure that 1.1.1.0/24, 1.2.3.0/24 and so on, never reaches the WAN or RF interfaces of the nodes.


This is something that I can implement rather quickly and will do so during next week.


Our GRE solution is implemented in a "package" like way, so this extra code will be part of future releases. The rather small footprint of this solution gives us the benefit of having som more addendum of different features without growing significantly in code. For example, we have already implemented the UCSD ripd connection for anyone wanting to use it. It´s still small enough to be harboured in the GL model though :)


As I said before, the recomendation is to use RFC private address-spaces, but I see this addition of code as a failsafe.



[KG6JEI 2014-10-25- 08:44:45]:


I'm not sure you can guarantee that.

As I noted we do not filter on the mesh nodes the 1.1.1.0/24 network. (Nor do I believe we should as it's a public network that could be put into service)

I can speak for myself and say in my current network setup leakage is 100% possible.  Even with my Checkpoint/Palo Alto/Cisco/Custom firewalls in line 1.1.1.0/24 doesn't appear to be in my bogon lists by quick glance (likely because it is technically allocated)


Every mesh node advertises it's VPN IP address as one of it's IP's.  This shows up in links on various pages of the BBHN/OLSR UI.


An example leakage possibility:

If the route goes down all of a sudden the fallback would be to send the packet out the nearest WAN GW. This by definition is leakage by crossing the bearer from BBHN to Local "WAN" network. Most home routers will likely not block it and on corporate routers it's not suppose to be blocked either. This causes further leakage into the routed internet.

Here is what happened in the past:
"While network 1.0.0.0/8 was an unallocated and unadvertised network any such traffic directed to an address in this block that “leaked” into the public Internet would follow a “default” routing path to the point where there was a “default-free” routing element, where the traffic would be discarded.  As soon as any such address in 1.0.0.0/8 was advertised as reachable into the public Internet, instead of being discarded as the boundary of the default-free zone (DFZ), the packets would be passed onto the destination rather than being discarded."

As seen once they advertised it it was routed. Also I notice you have a USA tunnel, can you guarantee that persons ISP won't route it ? How about every other node on that users mesh and their ISP's ? What about nodes that VPN into a node that's connected via rf to another node to another to one on the tunnel?  As you can see this very quickly becomes a can of worms that becomes hard without positive control over 100% of the nodes in the system.

Will it physically harm anyone, no, has it caused APNIC to declare space unusable,for the time being yes, will it likely be a lot of leaked traffic, no-but  a lot of small traffic adds up to 800mbps spikes.

And yes I believe Google was brought in for some capacity based on that doc to help test, what they are/were testing I don't know, but if APNIC told them to do something then it's within APNICS's authority to do so as the allocating authority (I see the advert is currently associated to Google under their AS15169 in the BGP tables: http://bgp.he.net/AS15169#_prefixes ). Google does make sense in a lot of regards due to their number of peering points, get the data off the 'uncontrolled' net as quickly as possible and into the 'controlled' infrastructure where it can be accounted for sooner reducing the chances of some router blocking it giving false readings.

**note: not intended to be a fight, just trying to point out why I am concerned about this as a networking person who has spent a fair amount of time with the BBHN code, and why in a global project like this some assumptions that have been made can't be made and why we should avoid this from the start rather than risk issues in 5 years.





[SM7I 2014-10-25- 03:50:19]:

KG6JEI


We always encourage hams to follow RFC, but in the end it´s up to everyone to decide what fits into their existing IP -plan. In this case it´s of no big issue since the IP´s will never be exposed to the Internet, only through the tunnel.


Also here, with my ISP, this particular IP network is not routed outside by them. And from what I understand this IP network is used isolated by Google to perform certain scientific tests.


But, once again. We encourage hams to follow RFC for private address-spaces suitable fo their needs.



[KG6JEI 2014-10-24- 06:15:20]:

Darryl: 

(Oops while I was typing Joe got to you so I've cleared my comment)

SM7I:

I took a look at your link. I'm concerned about the address space you are using for your VPN service and how it does not match reasonable internet standards.

1.1.1.0/24 is a public address space and should not be used on the mesh nodes without and assigned allocation from APNIC.

The nodes are not configured to block routing 1.1.1.0/24 out to the public internet.  

You may be causing packet leakage by operating in this manner.

APNIC has had serious issues with this http://www.potaroo.net/studies/1slash8/1slash8.pdf

perhaps moving the the 172.31.x.x space BBHN is promoting for VPN's would be wise.





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 Subject :Re:Running ubiquiti nodes on batteries.. 2014-10-25- 09:24:52 
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I would caution you to verify the pin out of your POE injector.  There are several different schemes in use and if your injector puts the voltage on the wrong pins it releases the "blue magic smoke" that makes the nodes work.

I have used several ubnt nodes running of a 12 vdc battery with no problems.  If you are using 12v I would suggest you keep your cable distances shorter.

Clint, AE5CA

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