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Subject :Re:Re:Re:Re:Hardware customization of a mesh router...
2015-01-12- 23:09:35
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Hardware customization of a mesh router.
The cost considerations other than COTS hardware is 100% valid. It is common for chip vendors to supply some sample code that is open (source code provided) coupled with a library of code to actually access the chip. The source to the critical library code is often not supplied. Without that, some of the changes you mention cannot be acomplished with limited resources. If it was easy, it would have been in the firmware years ago. Even large companies regularly just use the reference design and are not given source code to the chip access library. The ham market is ~0 compared to the consumer market or the military market, so there is no viable business case to provide the means to make use of more of the features of the chip. I have been working with the WRT54G since it came out and many people have told me they have pull and would get a full data sheet for the SOC in the device and NOBODY has come up with the data sheet. As long as we can piggy back off the massive consumer market for core hardware, prices can be kept low. Get outside that and things will get very expensive. -Glenn KD5MFW |
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Subject :Re:Re:Re:Hardware customization of a mesh router...
2015-01-12- 21:28:50
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Hardware customization of a mesh router.
There will likely be a slight cost premium over mass market ubiquity devices but not as much as suggested. We are at early stages of development so it is hard to give firm cost estimates. The intention is not to duplicate the ubiquity routers but to provide capabilities that the existing devices cannot support and that individuals are willing to pay a small premium for, to offset any added costs.
Recognize the need for buy in from BBHN and OpenWRT. The intention is to make this buy in relatively easy by use of chip sets that are already supported. The idea is to develop a hardware platform that supports the application as opposed to expecting the application to adapt to the hardware.
My guess is that military environment specs will have to wait for the 2nd or third iteration.
Keep the suggestions coming
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Subject :Re:Username & Password after FW Update..
2015-01-12- 15:44:15
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Subject :Username & Password after FW Update..
2015-01-12- 14:38:42
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Problems & Answers
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Username & Password after FW Update
Hello: Using a Linksys WRT54GSv4, I have successfully loaded 1.1.2 HSMM firmware and configured the node call sign and "password" (using the default root/hsmm login to get in). Upon reboot, I see the node ID, but I can not get past setup:login. What is the username for my configured setup, and is the login password the one I defined in config after firmware load?
Thanks, -- Jeff Marden KB1TJI |
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Subject :Re:Restoring Linksys firmware on a node..
2015-01-12- 14:30:30
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Problems & Answers
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Restoring Linksys firmware on a node
Great write-up Clint. Another option to "re-purpose" these Linksys routers is to load DD-WRT on them. Chances are, it's going to be more secure than the Linksys provided firmware and definitely has moe features. |
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Subject :Restoring Linksys firmware on a node..
2015-01-12- 13:29:45
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Problems & Answers
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Restoring Linksys firmware on a node
There have been several people asking how to restore the Linksys firmware to their nodes. I have successfully done it may times. This ability is not available in the Administration screen due the limitations in the Linksys User Agreement for the firmware. Basically the Linksys Firmware is copyrighted and the Linksys does not permit others to distribute their firmware.
What this means to the BBHN user trying to return a node to factory firmware is they need to go to http://linksys.com go into the support sections and download the firmware for your make a version of node. When you download the firmware, make sure you note where on your computer you put it.
The basics of how to upload the firmware are covered in the bottom of the Linksys firmware installation instructions at http://www.broadband-hamnet.org/documentation/68-firmware-installation-instructions.html.
The basics of installing the factory firmware on your node are:
- Download the firmware from the Linksys Web site.
- If you have not already done so enable TFTP on your computer. To enable TFTP open Control Panel > Programs and Features > click Turn Windows features On or Off in left side > enable Client TFTP then click in OK.
- Disable the WIFI on your computer.
- Set the LAN Port on your computer to use a static IP in the 192.168.1.xxx range. Do not use 1, 2 or 20 for xxx. I normally use 100.
- In order to keep the LAN connection open on the computer it is best to use an Ethernet switch between the node and the computer. Connect a Cat 5 cable between a LAN Port on the node and the Switch and a second Cat 5 cable between the switch and the LAN Port on your computer.
- In windows explorer navigate to the directory where you placed the firmware file. Right click on the file name and select properties. Highlight the file name and type control-v to copy the file name to the clipboard.
- Open a command prompt (Start, All Programs, Accessories, Command Prompt) on your computer.
- In the command prompt window, type but do not press enter TFTP –I 192.168.1.1 put.
- With the cursor in the command prompt window right click your mouse to paste the name of the firmware file into the command. Do Not Press Enter yet.
- Here is the tricky part. Remove the power from your node, wait a few seconds and plug it back in. About ½ second later, hit enter on the computer to run the TFPT command. You are trying to hit about a small window in the boot up sequence that is about ½ second long. If the TFTP command times out, repeat steps 8 -10 waiting just a little bit longer or shorter to hit enter.
- Once you hit the window with TFTP command, the node will upload the new firmware and reboot. It should come back up with the factory firmware on it.
I hope you will find these instructions useful. This same process can also be used with a BBHN .bin file to reload the firmware on a node that you have lost or forgotten the password. |
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Subject :Re:Hamilton..
2015-01-12- 13:12:23
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Ontario Canada
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Hamilton
Hello Ron, Shawn ( et all ) On the very favourable comments from Ron and Shawn I have treated myself to a couple of Nanostation M2 and a Bullet M2. I have to say that I am very impressed so far with the testing I have done. Thanks for the "hot tip" on these devices. I will keep you posted on further testing 73, Bob
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Subject :Re:Re:Hardware customization of a mesh router...
2015-01-12- 13:00:28
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Developer's Forum
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Hardware customization of a mesh router.
The cost of the hardware is a non-trivial factor to consider. While there is great appeal to extend bbhn image support for the features that ubiquiti lacks, the hardware will inherently be higher cost--from $100 to $100s for a node-antenna--particularly for support in the non-ISM bands. The hardware designed for and supported in the ISM bands has economies of scale to drive down the cost.
If the more capable hardware/device being considered is supported by the OpenWRT community, then this could be considered for bbhn support. If the hardware was not supported by OpenWRT, then it is unlikely to ever be a candidate for bbhn. The effort to port bbhn to a non-OpenWRT device would be exponentially more. If OpenWrt community doesn't extend support to any hardware you are considering, there may be a reason why they wouldn't.
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Subject :ip phone loop back..
2015-01-12- 06:47:05
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VoIP
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ip phone loop back
config: NSM2 Netgear gs108e Linksys/Cisco SPA941 4 line phones. IF IF I get the phones set up properly should I be able to dial one from the other when they are BOTH on the same GS108E switch? Anyone I can look for at Quartzsite with a MESH mind? |
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Subject :Re:Linksys & phone adapter..
2015-01-12- 04:10:49
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Subject :Re:Linksys & phone adapter..
2015-01-12- 01:42:23
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Linksys & phone adapter
NOTE NOTE NOTE Just in case someone read my post and got the Idea that V.3 only supports 1 device that is not true.............it still supports 5. this from my more learned friend: "the part that was disconnected in V.3 was the ability to direct link two nodes using an Ethernet cable. with v.2 you could connect any other node's Ethernet port directly to the Linksys...and force all traffic between those nodes to go through the cable, Vs. through the RF link. you could also crossband 5.8 nodes with 2.4 nodes, simply by plugging LAN port of the 5.8 into one of the LAN ports on the Linksys. THAT no longer works.....NOW you have to use an outboard switch...and make the direct link Ethernet connection through the outboard switch." I am truly sorry for putting out false information, BUT I truly thought from reading that the 5 devices had been changed to one 1, I was wrong! Larry KB8EMD
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Subject :Re:San Diego Mesh Working Group..
2015-01-11- 18:01:37
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San Diego Mesh Working Group
One of these days you might catch up to my count Andre :) See you at the meeting! (Hey I'm actually going to make it it seems! this is unheard of, everything has conspired against me for months....)
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Subject :Re:Hardware customization of a mesh router...
2015-01-11- 17:31:24
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K6AH |
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Developer's Forum
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Hardware customization of a mesh router.
Well... - Power adjustable in 1dB increments up to 1watt
- Coverage throughout the 900MHz, 2.4GHz, 3.4GHz, 5.8GHz ham band (not limited to ISM bands)
- Supports both CSMA and TDMA protocols
- Supports MIMO
- Configurable parameters down at the RF protocol level
- Military environmental specs
- PoE powered
- Easily tower mountable
- Remote reset via Ethernet cable
That's a start. Interesting proposition. Can't be an easy assignment. Andre, K6AH |
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Subject :January San Diego Mesh Working Group Meeting Monday..
2015-01-11- 16:54:16
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Subject :January San Diego Mesh Working Group Meeting Monday..
2015-01-11- 16:54:16
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L.A./SoCal
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San Diego Mesh Working Group
Monday, January 12, is our next San Diego Mesh Meeting. If you are not in the lobby by 7pm, then email me at callsign@arrl.net and someone will escort you to the meeting room.
Qualcomm Bldg Q, 6455 Lusk Blvd. Sorrento Valley (San Diego)
Talk-in 445.640 (-) 107.2 PL See you all there. Andre, K6AH
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Subject :Re:Nanostation versions..
2015-01-11- 16:03:22
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Hardware
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Nanostation versions
The release notes carry more details on supported hardware. The Nano Loco M2 is a smaller sized unit with both lower power and lower gain antenna than the Nano M2. We don't support the non M series. |
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Subject :Nanostation versions..
2015-01-11- 14:07:31
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Hardware
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Nanostation versions
Hi, I am looking at the different versions of nano station available and a bit confused over what the difference is between the models. Locally I can purchase: NanoStation LocoM2 200mw NanoStation M2 500mw NanoStation2 NS2 Is there much difference in compatibility in the BBHN firmware? Is the Loco version just a low powered version of the NSM2? Thanks
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Subject :Re:Hardware customization of a mesh router...
2015-01-11- 12:06:40
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Developer's Forum
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Hardware customization of a mesh router.
What are the problems that the development team is having that are related to features of or limitations of the ubiquity hardware?
The proposed router platform mentioned above would be immune from the recent problem with changes being made to the ubiquity machines since a key constraint is that it would be compatible with the latest BBHN software. |
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Subject :Re:Re:Linksys & phone adapter..
2015-01-11- 09:59:24
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Linksys & phone adapter
I too thought 5 devices could be hooked BUT it seems according to Him that is
do to "Apache Blackboard" setting them to only one?
if he is wrong please tell me.
I can not get my phone adapter to work with V.3
if you are using Linksys routers and have more than one device
plugged in and working them please tell me if you changed anything
to get them working or do you have my problem?
I'm old and what I know has long seeped out....
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Subject :Re:Linksys & phone adapter..
2015-01-11- 09:52:28
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Linksys & phone adapter
There is no one device limit on BBHN unless the node was changed to 1 host direct mode. The default is to allow up to 5 devices. If your friends really have found an issue in the firmware where this is the case it would be really nice if they submit details on it so that it can be looked into. |
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