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Subject :Re:serial port access..
2014-03-03- 09:21:36
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Chuckle away ! :-) It works! What baffled me until I found that diode was how to get it to auto-answer and hang up properly. But that got solved, and yes, it does work as intended... |
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Subject :Re:HSMM-MESH on Raspberry PI..
2014-03-03- 08:11:57
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Does HSMM-MESH reguire exclusive use of the Pi or can it work alongside other apps?
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Subject :Re:serial port access..
2014-03-03- 07:32:45
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Subject :Re:serial port access..
2014-03-03- 06:33:17
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Oh, Mark, so you want more like : http://www.broadband-hamnet.org/applications-for-the-mesh/158-remote-control-hf-rig-over-mesh.html but with a TNC instead of the FT-897 CAT-control..Quite doable. Load ser2net on the node, and the serial->IP driver for Windoze and you should be good to go.
And I DO have an WL2K to Mesh connection working, using Paclink and AGW Pro. You tell Pacllink to call a remote AGW at the mesh node name(in this case the mesh name is K5KTF-10, same as the WL2K station), port 8000, with user/pass, and paclink then controls my WL2K station radio. From anywhere on the mesh. I was at the 2011 HamComm in Plano, and we had a mesh tunnel back to Austin. I then did this to my K5KTF-10 station radio to check email at the one local hospital WL2K station down here, but controlling it all from ~300 miles north.
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Subject :Re:serial port access..
2014-03-03- 04:31:37
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Hi Jim;
Neither one of these is what I had in mind. I'm talking basically a remote serial terminal to talk directly to a TNC in command or maybe KISS mode. Yes, at butt-slow 1200 bps. I would bet that with enough HSMM nodes in between, that might be all you get through anyway. Adding an http interface to it would be really slick but probably unrealistic on a stock linksys.
The idea would be to tie a TNC to a router, and have it be available from anywhere on the mesh. Something like my KAM could be used for VHF or some HF digital modes. Not sure APRS is a fit here but having the ability to pass APRS data through the network probably has some useful application.
I figured a direct connect would be a simple way to interface available hardware without the need for an intermediate PC or ethernet interface. I didn't consider the winlink aspect of packet but now that you mention it, the idea of an HSMM to winlink gateway would probably get the emcomm/radio rambo types all whipped up. Seems a slam-dunk application for HSMM.
HSMM from my perspective is a solution waiting for the right problem to come along. It needs a few "killer apps" to get folks excited enough to want to bother setting up a critical mass of nodes to create a functioning network. Even just a basic serial gateway could be another tool in the toolbox just as VOIP and video chat are. Might seem dumb to tie a 300 or 1200 baud terminal to HSMM and barf DX spots or whatever, but it's better than what I'm seeing now on HSMM, which is even less than what's on 145.01 around here. |
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Subject :Re:serial port access..
2014-03-03- 03:45:58
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Subject :Re:serial port access..
2014-03-03- 03:38:43
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Subject :Re:Re:Saratoga, Fremont, San Jose Mesh network plans..
2014-03-02- 19:59:18
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Saratoga, Fremont, San Jose Mesh network plans
Hi Joe,
I have a friend in Fremont who is planning on setting up a node with my help. Not sure when it will go live, maybe after next weekend. So check the map every few days. Maybe we will have it up and running and on the map by then. If you have your node setup already, post it to the map and we will try aiming your way in a week or two. James KH2SR
[n3ckf 2014-03-01- 07:59:02]: Hi, this is Joe Pistritto, N3CKF in Fremont. I have a spare Ubiquiti NanoStationLocoM2 that i was thinking of putting online. Anyone else in Fremont/Newark with a HSMM node? (KE6TIM) i saw your node down in Milpitas but i'm pretty sure thats too far for me since i cant put my node outside, just in my attic).
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Subject :Re:San Mateo / Belmont Area?..
2014-03-02- 19:33:43
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Hi there Rogier, I read your post and thought you might like to check out this conversation thread: http://www.broadband-hamnet.org/hsmm-mesh-forums/view-postlist/forum-11-sfbay-area/topic-787-saratoga-fremont-san-jose-mesh-network-plans.html If you set up a node try listing it on the map: http://www.broadband-hamnet.org/googlemapped-mesh-nodes.html |
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Subject :Re:Saratoga, Fremont, San Jose Mesh network plans..
2014-03-02- 19:07:13
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Tyler,
With a building in the way I think it will be difficult for our two nodes to connect. If you leave yours up and running I will try to aim my antenna your direction sometime this week or next weekend. Try to position it near a south facing window.
This is almost identical to the directional wifi antenna I currently have: ( http://www.amazon.com/Alternative-Wireless-Pole-Mount-Directional-Antenna/dp/B003LY6VHI/ref=sr_1_30?ie=UTF8&qid=1393827523&sr=8-30&keywords=wifi+directional+antenna )
Obviously the higher the dB gain the better. Here is the antenna I am considering buying next: ( http://www.amazon.com/Silver-802-11b-Wifi-Antenna-Rp-sma/dp/B00DSVPAGM/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1393827828&sr=8-10&keywords=25dbi+wifi+directional+antenna )
Just make sure you don't use a very long coax cable between your node and the directional antenna you eventually get.
I know we currently don't have good odds of making contact with each others nodes or the one in Milpitas. However I think if we both set up nodes and list them on the map: ( http://www.broadband-hamnet.org/googlemapped-mesh-nodes.html ) other hams will see that there are new nodes showing up in the area and that might be the extra push they needed to do the same.
I think contacting our local ham clubs to ask if they have any mesh nodes setup in the area would be a good idea. If so suggest they list them on the map. If they don't have any mesh nodes then suggesting this as a project for their group to work on would be a good idea that they will probably appreciate.
I also plan on talking to several other hams I know into setting up nodes of their own.
I think if we can get the ball rolling then this could easily snowball into a decent sized bay area mesh network.
Feel free to post a message on here when you get your node listed on the map and I will do the same sometime this week.
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Subject :Re:Emergency Power and PoE for Ubiquiti..
2014-03-02- 15:44:12
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This device looks like it ought to help me make sure the right voltages are getting to the right pins:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B9GFJAU/ref=pe_385040_30332200_pe_309540_26725410_item 73, Harry Bloomberg W3YJ |
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Subject :Re:Don't throw away the routers that won't do the mesh...
2014-03-02- 15:41:44
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Don't throw away the routers that won't do the mesh.
No, just using the WAP11 as a standard wifi input to a mesh node. Set the WAP11 up to channel 11 to get it as far away from channel 1 as possible. No provision (that I see) to turn down the power on the WAP11 but it doesn't seem to interfere with the mesh node a few feet away. It's convenient to play with the system with a tablet instead of a hardwired PC. |
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Subject :Re:Re:Saratoga, Fremont, San Jose Mesh network plans..
2014-03-02- 15:12:37
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Hi James,
I suspect my building is going to make this a pretty big challenge. My patio is on the main floor of a 2 story apartment building. My lease terms make it clear that I cannot put anything on the roof either. South of me is another building as well. If you wanted to see how my location would fare, give it a shot: http://www.heywhatsthat.com/main-0904.html?view=K88E04SK Very nice website. Looking at it, it should theoretically be possible to get the signal through if we had good line of sight. Hmm, being new to the area I didn't realize how much the elevation changes from North to South, but then I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. :) What kind of antenna on Amazon would you recommend? There seems to be quite a range from cheap non-directional antennas to fancier directional ones. I'd try a dish, but I suspect I'd be out of luck for aiming it South. Thanks, Tyler
[KH2SR 2014-03-01- 23:22:09]: Hi Tyler,
Your location is about 6 miles north of where I am located. Which is very close to downtown Saratoga. I am still working on mounting my directional antenna to a 15 foot pole in my backyard as well as putting together a waterproof box for the node to go in for mounting on the pole as well. Once all that is done I plan on adding my node to the map. I will make an attempt at pointing your direction sometime in the next week or so.
Do you have a directional antenna for your node? If not there are some decent 2.4 Ghz directional antennas on amazon.com. I am also working on converting a old sat dish antenna into a 2.4Ghz MESH antenna. Here are the plans if you happen to be interested in trying it: http://people.wallawalla.edu/~Rob.Frohne/Airport/Primestar/Primestar.html
I also recommend using this site to help determine your line of sight to other locations. It factors in antenna hight as well as all terrain between two points on a map: http://www.heywhatsthat.com
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Subject :Re:Emergency Power and PoE for Ubiquiti..
2014-03-02- 15:11:20
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Yes, these would be for temporary field installations. Specifically we will be setting up a mesh at an airport for a drill and then an airshow. I envision dropping small gel-cell batteries where we'd like to have a mesh node and possibly a remote video camera. Thanks for the links and tips and I will check out these devices.
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Subject :Re:Emergency Power and PoE for Ubiquiti..
2014-03-02- 15:05:31
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So I have not seen an official spec, but Mirocom sales site and some other reports I have seen seem to suggest 10vdc is OK to run these on so that means a 12v battery charge/discharge range is in the avaliable power range.
What you want is a PASSIVE POE INJECTOR with pins 4/5 as Positive and 7/8 as NEGATIVE pins.
If this is a field setup you can probably get away with the really simple one such as follows: (I found it more expensive to try and make one so I didn't bother and went straight to buying though i haven't used any of these below yet) (Hint: just cut the ends and put Anderson on them)
http://www.amazon.com/HCP05-Passive-Injector-Splitter-Connector/dp/B00DZLSRJC/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1393814600&sr=1-1&keywords=passive+poe+injector http://www.amazon.com/Passive-injector-Power-over-Ethernet/dp/B00EBCGJVW/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1393814600&sr=1-4&keywords=passive+poe+injector
(NOTE: always verify the pins before connecting an unknown POE injector to your device to avoid destroying it)
If you need to power several (such as I need to for the programming lab) I have actually used:
http://www.amazon.com/WS-POE-8-ENC-Multi-Passive-Injector-devices/dp/B0075F7F2O/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1393814600&sr=1-3&keywords=passive+poe+injector
(at any given time 4+ have been plugged in and active in my lab off my central 13.8 supply)
If these will be outdoor permanent installs, especially if you get lighting, I recommend something a bit more protective however with built in lighting protection such as:
http://www.l-com.com/power-over-ethernet-single-port-cat5-passive-poe-midspan-injector-w-integral-lightning-protection
If you will be trying to run these in a car with a motor, I don't know how well the on board SMPS handles up and downs. A capacitor on the power lines may not be a bad thing in a car deployment. I have planned to be preemptive and instead install as 12v to 16v dc-dc switcher to bring the voltage up and clean it up for car usage but I have been known to over engineer.
I also plan on using the dc switcher to allow me to dump a battery at the bottom of a hill and run up to 300ft of CAT5 up to the top of a hill (Higher voltage, less current less system losses.) This also applies if you have a long run from your power source to your Ubiquiti device.
Useful calculator for POE voltage drop: http://blog.fosketts.net/toolbox/power-ethernet-calculator/
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Subject :Emergency Power and PoE for Ubiquiti..
2014-03-02- 14:26:56
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I am new at working with Power over Ethernet. Is there an easy way to provide PoE to a Ubiquiti router from a standard 12VDC power source? I know I could use a 12VDC to 120VAC inverter but these are typically in short supply and a bit expensive. Ideally I'd like to somehow be able to power a Ubiquiti router from PowerPoles. Thanks to those who ported the BBHN firmware to the Ubiquiti hardware. I now have a Bullet and AirGrid both running BBHN and I really like the devices. 73, Harry Bloomberg W3YJ hbloomb@gmail.com
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Subject :Re:Yet another mesh gateway question..
2014-03-02- 04:50:42
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The 0.0.0.0/0 route should show up in the OLSR status screen as I recall (however I can't check on mine right now) as an HNA annoucement. No GUI exists to see the full routing table at this time. You would need to log into the node and run the route command manually to see the actual routing table. |
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Subject :Re:Yet another mesh gateway question..
2014-03-02- 00:56:55
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Yeah, I am compliant, just wanted to do updates and installs to the other nodes.
Is there a way to show route from the UI that I am not seeing? I will check in the office tomorrow.
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Subject :Re:Saratoga, Fremont, San Jose Mesh network plans..
2014-03-01- 23:22:09
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Hi Tyler,
Your location is about 6 miles north of where I am located. Which is very close to downtown Saratoga. I am still working on mounting my directional antenna to a 15 foot pole in my backyard as well as putting together a waterproof box for the node to go in for mounting on the pole as well. Once all that is done I plan on adding my node to the map. I will make an attempt at pointing your direction sometime in the next week or so.
Do you have a directional antenna for your node? If not there are some decent 2.4 Ghz directional antennas on amazon.com. I am also working on converting a old sat dish antenna into a 2.4Ghz MESH antenna. Here are the plans if you happen to be interested in trying it: http://people.wallawalla.edu/~Rob.Frohne/Airport/Primestar/Primestar.html
I also recommend using this site to help determine your line of sight to other locations. It factors in antenna hight as well as all terrain between two points on a map: http://www.heywhatsthat.com
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Subject :Re:Don't throw away the routers that won't do the mesh...
2014-03-01- 22:43:29
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Don't throw away the routers that won't do the mesh.
Hi mark,
I am curious if you meant in your post that you were able to convert a Linksys WAP11 into a MESH node? If so which firmware did you use?
Thanks!
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