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 Subject :Re:Wireless Rig Control?.. 2013-04-04- 12:38:02 
wd4hxg
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Joined: 2013-02-17- 01:58:37
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Location: Sterling, VA
Forum : Applications
Topic : Wireless Rig Control?

Thanks David for the ideas. During the interim have been looking for solutions. Speaking of overkill the search kept running into setup of SIP servers. While not impossible it just seems painful. I had hoped to find a hardware solution that was not in the budget busting category. It may happen in the form of the Raspberry PI. Small unit, runs a full tilt Linux load and lots of flexibility for the inept op like me. There was some info on point to point ip audio using iPhones and/or Droids without sip services but dang both are pricey. The drawback with any hardware solution is it is another physical item to track and keep broken connectors/cables fixed. There is some software out there for streaming audio which is appealing. Will see which is easier. HTML intimidates me and it seems to be a continuing ever changing item. It is more a moving target than a hyperactive Texas Jackrabbit on the run. For me things like HTML and C programming are like walking into the Twilight Zone only to stumble into Rod Searling. I kind of gave up on the recycled commercial radio gear (Motorola and others). No doubt it is good gear built like the proverbial brick outhouse but locating the bits and pieces to make it work always seems to me to be a major effort. Guess I am to much like an electron seeking the path of least resistance. The electron has the advantage. Have to run. Again thanks for the ideas. I can always clutter up my aging mind with more software. :-)
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 Subject :Re:Cheap New Grid Antennas 24DBi.. 2013-04-04- 09:37:57 
N7SKV
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Joined: 2013-03-05- 10:33:11
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Location: Peoria, Arizona DM33uq
Forum : Hardware
Topic : Cheap New Grid Antennas 24DBi

I have the Walmart Grid ant it is a TP-Link. Yes you can change the polarization of the Driven element (but it needs to be a certain way according to the dish) so you should actually change the mount point to make it go horizontal. The cable is about 18 inches exposed from the back of the grid. Looks to be LMR 400/600 range cable. I am picking up a standard Wifi (Dunkin Donuts)indoor Vertically polarized 2.2 miles away while I am horizontal. I live in an open area so this may be optimum conditions. My avatar shows the Walmart grid in set up for horizontal.

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 Subject :Re:Wireless Rig Control?.. 2013-04-04- 07:34:28 
KD4E
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Joined: 2012-07-29- 13:39:05
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Location: Nevils in SE-Georgia, USA
 
Forum : Applications
Topic : Wireless Rig Control?

Forum deleting posts not run through Preview ... again ... arghhhh! Here is my reply ... retyped ... You may look at HTML5 re. streaming audio since you don't have to manage accounts & multiple contacts, etc. VoIP/SIP does seem to be overkill. Also, what about a 900MHz link for the audio? Perhaps a pair of surplus Motorola i570's from the Sprint-abandoned Nextel service in "MotoTalk/DirectTalk" mode? Adding a second radio link complicates on one hand but jumps you past the audio hassle in the near-term as you work on an integrated Broadband-Hamnet alternative.
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 Subject :Re:HSSM-Mesh at Atlanta Hamfest - June 1, 2013.. 2013-04-04- 06:16:59 
N4TTY
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Joined: 2013-03-15- 09:05:17
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Location: Stone Mountain, GA
Forum : AtlantaGA
Topic : HSSM-Mesh at Atlanta Hamfest - June 1, 2013

Do you want to trade emails so we can communicate with out having to go through the forum route? My email is N4TTY@ARRL.NET Steve G./N4TTY
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 Subject :Re:HSSM-Mesh at Atlanta Hamfest - June 1, 2013.. 2013-04-04- 05:26:43 
KD4E
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Joined: 2012-07-29- 13:39:05
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Location: Nevils in SE-Georgia, USA
 
Forum : AtlantaGA
Topic : HSSM-Mesh at Atlanta Hamfest - June 1, 2013

Here's my thought: 1. Promote the new name "Broadband-Hamnet". 2. Show the newest features. 3. Demonstrate how it is valuable in emcomm. 4. If wifi is available link to ARRL to show that feature. 5. Demonstrate full remote rig control & SSB operation. 6. Demonstrate use of commonly available and cheap used routers. 7. Demonstrate simple setup of a router. I'm not sure we have time to pull this off. We'd need a team - perhaps one at the Club table and at least one other elsewhere. I'm isolated here near Statesboro with no other Broadband-Hamnet ops. If provided with what you are using I could load-up my two Linksys WRT54G3G-ST's. WDYT? David
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 Subject :Re:HSSM-Mesh at Atlanta Hamfest - June 1, 2013.. 2013-04-04- 02:58:25 
N4TTY
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Location: Stone Mountain, GA
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Topic : HSSM-Mesh at Atlanta Hamfest - June 1, 2013

I might be interested. Do you have any plans for what would be the purpose or what we could do to promote interest? N4TTY
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 Subject :Re:Portable mount for antenna/node.. 2013-04-03- 16:17:08 
n7ego
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Joined: 2013-03-06- 21:51:50
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Location: Cedar Hills, UT
Forum : Hardware
Topic : Portable mount for antenna/node

That's a great point. In fact I experienced that very problem last night while doing a little testing in the wind. I'll need to plan on a couple more guy lines for the end of each antenna.
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 Subject :Re:Node Internet Sharing.. 2013-04-03- 12:59:52 
K5KTF
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Forum : General
Topic : Node Internet Sharing

The serial port(s) pinout is posted online, and a google search should find it easily (google "WRT54G Srial pinout"). Its a standard .10 pitch 2x5 IDC header layout. Just need to plug the 2x5 IDC black header onto it, OR, like I do, and solder directly. The header makes it convenient if you have to take the covers off/board out.

BUT...

To hook to a standard PC serial port, you will need whats called a Level Shifter.

PC serial works at about 12VDC, whereas the WRT's serials are 3.3/3.5, so you need to have a level shifter in between

Also, COM1 is, by default, the console output, so if you only need 1 port, connect to COM2's pins and make things a bit easier.

KTF


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 Subject :Re:Portable mount for antenna/node.. 2013-04-03- 12:00:49 
wx5u
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Joined: 2013-01-02- 00:30:45
Posts: 188
Location: Austin, TX
Forum : Hardware
Topic : Portable mount for antenna/node

One important consideration is that the high gain antennas have narrow angles in the signal patterns.   2.4 GHz antennas even more so than VHF or lower frequencies.

Depending on how it's mounted, you may have problems with torsional vibrations.  i.e. the antenna turns in a right left pattern in the wind.  It sometimes helps to have some separate guys on the end of the antenna itself in a V pattern in order to keep it from twisting in the wind.

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I'm not part of the development team, so take what I say with a grain of salt. I'm also easily confused.

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 Subject :Re:Node Internet Sharing.. 2013-04-03- 10:31:57 
WA2RJP
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Joined: 2013-03-17- 09:07:03
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Topic : Node Internet Sharing

Jim,

That was a simple explanation and worked perfectly. I am a mesh noobie but was able to hook my laptop to one router, the internet to a second and remotely connect to the second and make the changes to the WAN port. After the reboot I had internet!

Now I just need to figure out how to access the serial port on my router. I have a few more people interested in the mesh and grand plans on how to implement it locally.

 

tnx agn,

Jim

WA2RJP

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 Subject :Portable mount for antenna/node.. 2013-04-03- 09:43:37 
n7ego
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Joined: 2013-03-06- 21:51:50
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Location: Cedar Hills, UT
Forum : Hardware
Topic : Portable mount for antenna/node

I am preparing to use mesh nodes to support communications at an event held in a remote location in Utah's west desert. The nodes will be several miles apart, so high gain antennas will be a necessity. Has anyone figured out a good, inexpensive, portable way to mount antennas and nodes? I have experimented with mounting an antenna and node near the end of an 8' piece of 1 1/4" PVC pipe. This works reasonably well, but I'm concerned that it will be difficult to secure the guy lines needed to hold it up in the very sandy soil out in the desert. It would work better if I didn't have the weight of the router at the top of the pipe along with the antenna, but otherwise I have to use a longer feed line and deal with the losses that introduces. I'd be interested in solutions any of you have come up with, or even hearing about things you have tried that didn't work so I can learn from your experience.


Thanks,

Brad / N7EGO

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 Subject :Re:VPN on HSMM?.. 2013-04-02- 23:49:58 
WM3V
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Joined: 2013-04-01- 21:39:40
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Location: Draper, Utah
Forum : Applications
Topic : VPN on HSMM?

Got it. No one wants a flame war. In other words, proceed at your own risk and understanding of the law, and leave others to do likewise.
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 Subject :Re:VPN on HSMM?.. 2013-04-02- 14:10:31 
KD5MFW
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Topic : VPN on HSMM?

Technically it is possible to run a VPN on HSM-MESH(tm).  We can help with technical questions. 

Only someone empowered to interpret and enforce the FCC rules could offer a definitive answer.  So people offering opinions with no legal standing, is of limited value.  Therefore we limit such discussions.  Please see  the message regarding legal issues on the home page of this web site.

Thanks for your cooperation.

-Glenn

KD5MFW

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 Subject :VPN on HSMM?.. 2013-04-02- 13:51:24 
WM3V
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Joined: 2013-04-01- 21:39:40
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Location: Draper, Utah
Forum : Applications
Topic : VPN on HSMM?

I have seen several references to VPN's on HSMM both here and elsewhere.  My question is, while it is technically feasible, and even with the right background trivial, is it strictly legal with our HAM licenses?  I was under the impression we were not able to encrypt communications, and I don't know how you get any more encrypted than on a VPN.

Any thoughts?

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 Subject :Re:HSMM-MESH in Utah.. 2013-04-02- 13:47:48 
WM3V
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Joined: 2013-04-01- 21:39:40
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Location: Draper, Utah
Forum : Utah
Topic : HSMM-MESH in Utah

Just got 2 WRT54GS units off of eBay and have them working together. Ran around the neighborhood in my car, and not a peep from anyone else on the status page. I live in draper, so perhaps I can find a point to point connection to someone in Sandy or South Jordan? More likely Sandy though due to the freeway but I'm game to try. I will probably be building either a coil or bi-quad receiver into an old satellite dish and see how that works. If there is anyone else in Draper, get with me, and let's connect!
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 Subject :Re:Cheap New Grid Antennas 24DBi.. 2013-04-01- 02:34:27 
K7NYS
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Joined: 2013-03-10- 16:40:27
Posts: 10
Location: Phoenix
Forum : Hardware
Topic : Cheap New Grid Antennas 24DBi

I ordered a grid last night. Now I need a good omni...any good ideas? I just got an email from the shipper. Out of stuck. They hope to ship within 30 days.

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Last Edited On: 2013-04-03- 05:55:44 By K7NYS for the Reason additional info
 Subject :Re:IRC File Transfer.. 2013-03-31- 13:47:19 
W3JY
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Joined: 2013-01-23- 15:23:08
Posts: 15
Location: Malvern Pa USA FN20ga
Forum : Applications
Topic : IRC File Transfer

(Edited)

Mike, were you ever able to make this function on the same node?  It seems your experience implies n+1 nodes are needed, which is important to know in advance.

Mesh is great but not so easy for non-IT administrators to actually use for all the subtleties and assumed knowledge the layman lacks.

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Last Edited On: 2013-04-03- 04:46:30 By W3JY for the Reason Better clarify my question and the reasoning
 Subject :serial port access.. 2013-03-31- 12:48:16 
WA2RJP
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Topic : serial port access

I know there are 2 serial ports in the WRT54G router. If I do the mod to bring one out of the router how do I access it? Does the mesh firmware have a way to do it already or do I need to add something to it? My idea is to use the mesh to access a repeater controller and possibly a port on a packet node. I am a linux noob but willing to learn.

 

tnx,

 

Jim

 

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 Subject :LOCATIONS!.. 2013-03-30- 10:20:01 
AE5JO
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Joined: 2012-11-04- 22:39:21
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Topic : LOCATIONS!

I searched a war-driving database for HSMM-MESH and imported the results here.  I just put the location and last date it was seen by somebody uploading to the database.  I'm sure it's nowhere near complete but it surprised me how many nodes were spotted.  I imported the data to google drive and shared the data set with maps.  You can view the results here: https://www.google.com/fusiontables/DataSource?docid=185e7xGGp3Nx94sbtrFmKrmdoE1hrmbC2tm9rgFY

I uploaded a picture from the map the link generates.


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 Subject :Re:Localized webSplat!.. 2013-03-26- 07:47:46 
n7ego
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Joined: 2013-03-06- 21:51:50
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Location: Cedar Hills, UT
Forum : Utah
Topic : Localized webSplat!

Thanks for putting this up Gerald. It's very helpful. I noticed that you slipped in an extra "n" in one of your domain names above. I was able to access the page when I went to splat.artisanchemicals.com.
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